Hour Rule

"f86sabre" (f86sabre) 01/13/2018 at 07:06 • Filed to: Planelopnik

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What could have been. The YF-23.

Ash78, voting early and often > f86sabre 01/13/2018 at 08:25

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I always thought this was way cooler than the F-22....and that building them both to physically compete was a crazy waste of tax money (because even the loser would recoup their costs through other contracts).

Grindintosecond > f86sabre 01/13/2018 at 09:57

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...and it outperformed the f-22....

I hate politician generals

Spaceball-Two > f86sabre 01/13/2018 at 10:21

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I’ve always had a suspicion that there is version of this aircraft in service and we just don’t know about it. Like that mystery plane that ran off the runway in England and they had to get a C5 to retrieve it in the middle of the night.

ttyymmnn > f86sabre 01/13/2018 at 11:16

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Faster than the YF-22, but without thrust vectoring and thus, less maneuverable. Aside from that, I think the AF brass thought that the YF-22 just looked more like a fighter plane.

ttyymmnn > Grindintosecond 01/13/2018 at 11:17

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Faster, but not quite as maneuverable. Didn’t have vectored thrust.

f86sabre > ttyymmnn 01/13/2018 at 13:35

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True. Still a good looking beast.

Feeling ok?

f86sabre > Ash78, voting early and often 01/13/2018 at 13:42

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Actually, that was a pretty normal thing. The YF-17 (became the F-18) competed with the F-16.

Spanfeller is a twat > f86sabre 01/13/2018 at 14:34

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isn’t that an F-52 for Norway?

ttyymmnn > f86sabre 01/13/2018 at 14:51

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Absolutely. Feeling better, thanks. My oldest got the bug after me and was ill for 24 hours. Hopefully it ends there.

Grindintosecond > ttyymmnn 01/15/2018 at 11:58

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Suppose you’re correct. Looking at total gunslinger capability it wins. However even the f16 guys will show how the vectored thrust actually is a waste of time and a hinderance. Because if used its for a kill shot in a 1 v 1 scenario and makes that vectored thrust plane slow, without energy, and now a target.

F22 had more stealth and speed but we easily saw speed not win engagements. I doubt well see a real airwar again, at least one with sustained dogfight agression.

ttyymmnn > Grindintosecond 01/15/2018 at 13:44

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My guess is that we are one generation of fighter away from pilotless fighters.